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    Hi Guys,

    I'm trying to find some history for my '68 GT500. I have the Deluxe Marti Report but not much else. If anyone knows anything I would greatly appreciate it if you could pass it on.

    Thanks,

    Steve
     

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    Should I assume you know about it being a street racer with a 427?
     
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    So, we are not going to get pictures of the factory aluminum intake installation?
     
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    TLEA,

    No I did not know that.

    Coralsnake,

    Here's a photo from the auction site, I haven't actually taken any photo's of my own yet. Only got it last week.I'll get you some more pictures tomorrow if you they'll help.

    Steve
     

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    That would seem to have a fairly late build date?
     
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    from 97 registry,
    Shipped to Courtesy Motors Littleton Co 4/1/6, invoice dated 3/22/68. It has a 427 tunnel port engine and was used as a street racer in the early 70's. It has not been registered since 75 and has 39,000 miles as of 8/25/89. Previosly owned by Floyd E Albert (Sugarland Texas) Present owner Monte Ramey (North Richmond Hills Texas)
     
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    According to the Marti report, the build date was 03/14/68 1 day ahead of the scheduled date.

    Ok, the last Registry I was able to come across was the '87 and according to that it was an automatic GT350 Convertible with hubcaps....

    From what Vinman tells me it went from texas to Virginia, I have the Virginia DMV card issued on 09/04/09 to CVILLE Classic Cars.
     
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    The block has a date code of 6K1 which is obviously not correct. If any of you know of a correct PI block that is for sale it would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    Is it the 427 block that it supposedly had in the 70's? I may know of a block either feb or march 68
     
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    On the hand written shipping report 3054 was shipped to Courtesy Ford on 4-16-68
     
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    TLEA,
    No, unfortunately/fortunately its a 428. Depends which side of the fence you're on regarding originality. This statement is from the restorer (CVILLE Classic Cars).
    The existing engine block was not the original nor from the same period. I purchased
    a 1967 428 block – block code C6ME-A – which was located in Greensboro, NC. Code numbers on the heads – C80E-6090-N – indicate they are the original heads.

    If you could find out about that block I'd really appreciate it, my build date being 3/14/68 I assume Feb. would be ideal but early March will work.


    Ranger Jerry,

    Yes thats the same info as on the Marti Report that came with the car. Would it be possible to get at least a copy of that report from you. I understand not wanting to give up original paperwork

    Thanks,

    Steve
     
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    The bad news is those are not original heads. GT 500 used C8AE H heads with the 14 bolt exhaust and Thermactor ports meaning there are also C8AE H heads 8 bolts and non thermactor. Good news is the C8OE N heads are CJ/KR heads and are worth more than the correct ones
    Anywhere from 2/1 to about 3/2 would work. I made a call to a friend and he's going to check
     
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    Ah ok well that is some "good" news. I was able to reach the guy that did the restoration and a full overhaul was done to this engine so its in great shape. When they got it it had a 351 truck block that had been bored out to 428. they sent all that information to the auction when it was sold to CCP Auctions but I guess that magically disappeared before they put their description of the car together.

    Thats some more good news on the block. Thanks again for helping out this newbie.

    I had to get a new camera today which is the reason for the delay on photo's. They'll be available in the next day or two.
     
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    Steve, no problem sending you a copy. What I have is just a photo copy. My car is 3077 a red KR also sold from Courtesy Ford, that's why I have your info on the same sheet as mine. Courtesy Ford is not to far from where I live. Send me a message with an address and I will get you a copy. Looking forward to seeing some pictures. Jerry
     
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    Thanks Jerry.

    I'm up in Canada so I sent you my email address, hope that works. Otherwise I can send you my mailing address or a fax number.

    Thats pretty interesting that your car stayed in the same area all this time. My Dads GT350 - 2127 has been registered in Ontario Canada since new.

    Steve
     
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    Here are some photo's from around the engine bay. I'm really not familiar with the smog system or the A/C. I know that the shocks are not correct and that all of the decals are missing.

    Suggestions and criticism welcome and appreciated.
     

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    How much detail are you looking for? Because there is a lot going on in there.....

    If you need some info on smog here are the basics....

    http://www.thecoralsnake.com/smog.HTML

    The decal you have on the fan shroud does not belong. The carburetor is incorrect and has a manual choke. That is not correct. The air cleaner is likely incorrect, but can be modified, I guess we can work our way down from there if you really like constructive critism.
     
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    I'm not looking to be concourse but I do want to at least look correct. Yeah, I read either on your site or a thread that you were posting in that the caution decal is incorrect. Figures since thats the only decal under that hood.
    I'm not even sure if my car is supposed to have a smog system. The previous owner bought it with a 351 Truck block in it and replaced it with this block C6ME-A date code 6k1 . He also put CJ KR heads on it as pointed out by TLEA.
    So from there I would assume that the exhaust manifolds are also CJ but I haven't been able to find any numbers on them.

    I was aware of the manual choke being incorrect, the installer ran the cable through the same hole in the firewall as the accelerator linkage.

    I'm currently searching for the correct date block.
     
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    Like Pete said lot going on. The carb is just not wrong because of choke, its just the wrong carb. Other notibles,
    shock tower caps appear to be regular mustang
    distributor advance/coil
    smog
    plug wires
    breather cap
    heater hose elbow
    lot of hardware

    I can't tell for sure but is that the correct intake? Should be C7AE F
     
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    Yeah, quite a bit wrong. Like I said, I'm not going concourse but want it to look as correct as possible. I'm going to try and accumulate as much of the correct items as I can over this winter so that I can have it ready for SAAC 37.

    I just ran out to the garage though and can confirm that the intake is in fact a C7AE-9425-F

    Again, I appreciate all the help from you guys and I hope I can do the same for someone else someday
     
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